tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15986597.post114849881136106293..comments2023-11-07T08:12:05.520-05:00Comments on The 5th Estate 2009: Guilt By Association: My Meal with NPR Ombudsman Dvorkin5th Estatehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14918749316906295703noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15986597.post-1148671412404481072006-05-26T15:23:00.000-04:002006-05-26T15:23:00.000-04:00Carl...It's so easy to sling mud, much harder to c...Carl...It's so easy to sling mud, much harder to clear up the mess. This is the M.O. of the the ignorant ideologue. The reaction of reactionaries is deflect the issue or change he subject, the reaction of non reactionaries is to apply surgical procedures or cry out in frustration, mpore often to do both.5th Estatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14918749316906295703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15986597.post-1148652849914582362006-05-26T10:14:00.000-04:002006-05-26T10:14:00.000-04:00I pity the poor intern who will have to read and p...I pity the poor intern who will have to read and precis this :-)<BR/><BR/>Not for content, Simon. You're very thorough and very complete in your analysis and argument and given the obtusity we're looking at, I think you had to lay it out like an owner dragging a dog's nose to the pile of shit in the middle of the living room and shouting "NO!"<BR/><BR/>No, I pity the intern because he/she (probably a she) will be sitting there, goggle-eyed after a night's drinking, dancing, and sex, and realizing there is no way to shorten what you've written!Carlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03664920037425489644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15986597.post-1148619733281447162006-05-26T01:02:00.000-04:002006-05-26T01:02:00.000-04:00Hoist[ed] by your own petard methinks, Mr Dvorkin....<I>Hoist[ed] by your own petard methinks, Mr Dvorkin.<BR/>And not one instance on my part as an NPR listener and a blogger of using invectives or hate speech! Note also the use of facts and reason.</I><BR/><BR/>Excellent, Simon! I've often wondered what the hell Mara Liasson was doing with those saggy-faced, squinty pus bags on fox.<BR/><BR/><B>p.s. to teaghan's mom:</B><BR/>Hey! How are you? We should get together -- it's been too long!Fantodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09647870532472855426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15986597.post-1148524790193444102006-05-24T22:39:00.000-04:002006-05-24T22:39:00.000-04:00Bluegal...Not surprised you spotted my dodgy asser...Bluegal...Not surprised you spotted my dodgy assertion that MM is not political--but as long as it avoids the use of "right or left" descriptors it qualifies as being apolitical ( even though I and you know it really isn't).And this serves as a case in point--though poltically aligned as I think we are, you have no problem challenging what was clearly a dubious assertion, and I in return accept your basic argument--MM has an overall bias, but it it doesn't inject unfounded commentary in its specific criticisms. <BR/><BR/>As to the email thing, I'll get on that post haste. I don't know what the advantage is but if you say I should have it, then so be it. I don;t mind taking orders from a smart woman. Guess that makes me a liberal!5th Estatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14918749316906295703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15986597.post-1148521670869826142006-05-24T21:47:00.000-04:002006-05-24T21:47:00.000-04:00betmo , yeah, I'm not holding my breath, but like ...betmo , yeah, I'm not holding my breath, but like Ms Rohe, its important to challenge those who assume authority in the present based on the past. Such is the case with McCain and Dvorkin. Who can match McCain's experience? Only a handful. But who can match his intellect? Tens of thousands if not millions, regardless of experience and age. The same goes for Dvorkin.5th Estatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14918749316906295703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15986597.post-1148518917473700192006-05-24T21:01:00.000-04:002006-05-24T21:01:00.000-04:00mr. simon waugh, i would not hold my hand on my as...mr. simon waugh, i would not hold my hand on my ass waiting for mr. ombudsman to respond. you have outclassed him and he will feel that it is beneath him to respond to a common blogger. good for you!billiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16206096509976316141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15986597.post-1148518723414665112006-05-24T20:58:00.000-04:002006-05-24T20:58:00.000-04:00Whew! Simon, that was awesome. My only issue wi...Whew! Simon, that was awesome. My only issue with it would be that I personally think it's disigenuous to say Media Matters is not a political blog. They have a definite liberal bias, but their strength is their quotations of those very biased boys you mention above. <BR/><BR/>Otherwise, great letter!<BR/><BR/>BTW as I commented over at my place occasional on-topic pimping there is encouraged. So is having a published email addy. like 5thestate@gmail.com which I can arrange for you. I'm not going to let up on that. bluegalsblogATgmailDOTcomFran / Blue Galhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18293627981248346055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15986597.post-1148516029143669862006-05-24T20:13:00.000-04:002006-05-24T20:13:00.000-04:00t's mom...bless you dear.it could have been shorte...t's mom...<BR/>bless you dear.<BR/>it could have been shorter but I felt the need to nail as many points as possible and hammer them home rahter than go on a jag. Dvorkin's attitude is thathis critics are petulant children, but his response showed no maturity at all so I had to explain it all for him ( and I still had more to say).<BR/><BR/>As I guess you don't have a blog yourself, which other blogs do you like to frequent? Good company is always wothr nurturing, and next time you stop by, maybe I can save you a couple of xlicks by adding some of your favortie blogs to my blogroll.5th Estatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14918749316906295703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15986597.post-1148513367678925622006-05-24T19:29:00.000-04:002006-05-24T19:29:00.000-04:00Holy coprolite, Batman! That's one well written (...Holy coprolite, Batman! That's one well written (albeit long) and extremely colorful letter! <BR/><BR/>I can't wait to read Dvorkin's response.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com